{"id":851,"date":"2012-04-15T22:56:57","date_gmt":"2012-04-15T20:56:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/?p=851"},"modified":"2017-06-10T20:46:46","modified_gmt":"2017-06-10T18:46:46","slug":"fasatura-albero-motore-%e2%80%93-coppie-coniche-%e2%80%93-albero-a-camme-parte-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/fasatura-albero-motore-%e2%80%93-coppie-coniche-%e2%80%93-albero-a-camme-parte-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Fasatura albero motore \u2013 coppie coniche \u2013 albero a camme (parte 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\">In riferimento al primo post sulle coppie coniche (questo qua\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/?p=665\">http:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/?p=665<\/a>\u00a0&#8230;. credo di aver scritto una minchiata colossale. \ud83d\ude41<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Ma dove sta scritto che quando il pistone \u00e8 <em>esattamente<\/em> al PMS i puntini di riferimento sulle coppie coniche devono coincidere? \ud83d\ude10<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Se vi ricordate al tempo mi accorsi che mettendo il pistone al PMS i puntini non erano allineati ed interpellato un noto meccanico Bolognese mi aveva detto di rifasare spostando l&#8217;ingranaggio sull&#8217;albero motore (rileggetevi il precedente articolo).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Ho modo di pensare che quello che mi \u00e8 stato detto non \u00e8 del tutto corretto, per i seguenti motivi:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">1) per la mia esperienza, quando il pistone si trova al PMS in espansione (cio\u00e8 un giro dopo il PMS in compressione) le valvole devono &#8220;bilanciare&#8221;, ossia tanto \u00e8 aperta una valvola tanto \u00e8 aperta l&#8217;altra. Ovviamente quella di aspirazione sta aprendo e quella in compressione sta chiudendo. Quello che ho misurato con la nuova fasatura \u00e8 che una valvola era aperta 2mm in pi\u00f9 rispetto all&#8217;altra e considerando che la corsa \u00e8 pi\u00f9 o meno 8mm, 2mm sono una bella differenza.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">2) la fasatura dell&#8217;albero a camme (ossia la valvola di aspirazione apre ad <strong>x<\/strong> gradi e chiude ad <strong>y<\/strong> gradi e la valvola di scarico apre a<strong> x1<\/strong> gradi e chiude a <strong>y1<\/strong> gradi) con la nuova fasatura non torna!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">3) su tutte le foto che ho trovato in rete non ce ne \u00e8 stata una che avesse il famoso ingranaggio sull&#8217;albero motore con il riferimento sulla chiavetta.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">4) parlando con diversi altri meccanici nessuno ne sapeva nulla di questa differenza<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">5) chi vende coppie coniche (vedi gli Amici dello Scrabler) vendono la solita coppia conica per tutti e tre i modelli.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Quindi?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Quindi ho rimesso tutto come era e per magia: le valvole al PMS in espansione sono adesso aperte del solito valore (meno di un decimo di differenza!); la fasatura di apertura delle valvole \u00e8 esattamente come scritto sui manuali di officina.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Qua le foto che ho trovato in rete tutte relative a moto differenti (ringrazio Dragone81 per avermi mandato la sesta foto):<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/coppia_conica_moromotoricambi.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1165 size-medium\" title=\"coppia_conica_moromotoricambi\" src=\"http:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/coppia_conica_moromotoricambi-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" 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https:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/IMG_0335.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/chiavetta.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-857 size-medium\" title=\"chiavetta\" src=\"http:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/chiavetta-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/chiavetta-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/chiavetta-500x280.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/chiavetta.jpg 891w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.luke3d.org\/luke3d_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/foto-da-Dragone81-2.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-866 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